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Anchor setup
Any suggestions for what size/type of anchor and length of rope to use one the susky, particularly Clarke Lake area?

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07-31-2017 03:43 PM
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Anchor setup
I lake fish mostly. I prefer to use a 3.5 lbs grapple anchor with 50' of 1/4" line. I tried a lighter weight anchor and didn't like the drifting and dragging it did. I keep the line on a extension cord wrap.


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07-31-2017 08:49 PM
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RE: Anchor setup
yeah, I got the 1.5lb grapple right now. on a calm day it will hold me in place pretty good but if there's any wind I start to plow the bottom. The 3.5 is a better choice but you need to set it up right.


   
08-01-2017 06:52 AM
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RE: Anchor setup
(08-01-2017 06:52 AM)Spider1 Wrote:  yeah, I got the 1.5lb grapple right now. on a calm day it will hold me in place pretty good but if there's any wind I start to plow the bottom. The 3.5 is a better choice but you need to set it up right.
Thanks for the info. how long of a line do you have your anchor attached to?

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08-01-2017 07:46 AM
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RE: Anchor setup
I have a 2ft chain on mine and then a 50' line. Well, it's more like 40' these days. I wind the line on a sort of homemade version of a yakattack sidewinder but will probably be setting it up on a clothesline reel as a winter project this year.
08-02-2017 06:59 AM
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RE: Anchor setup
We have 3 or 3.5lb fluke style. You can lock the flukes out or closed. We have 50' paracord attached to it.

Ty the line to the bottom of the anchor, then run the cord up to the top and ty-wrap (cheap & small) to the top loop.

In the river, sometimes you have to run with the flukes out. The flukes can get stuck.
When you're stuck, you pull on the anchor until the ty-wrap breaks. This allows you to pull it out from the opposite direction( bottom). Carry spare ty-wraps, so you can reconnect when they break.
08-02-2017 04:17 PM
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RE: Anchor setup
I use a dive reel and marker buoy like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99joUZ7XgTg

If you already have an anchor trolley, just jump to the 3:45 min mark in the video to see the anchor system itself.

I do have a concern with my dive reel. I asked the manufacturer and it looks like the line on my reel is only 50 pounds break strength. I'm concerned that I might actually loose the anchor if I can't get the zip tie to bust with my wimpy 50# break strength line. What do you guys think?
08-04-2017 06:28 PM
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RE: Anchor setup
if you can't break a zip tie with 50 lbs of lift, you are using too big of a zip tie.

In my experience, people go way WAY too overcomplicated with anchor lines- I have snagged a lure in moderate current, and held my kayak in position with an 8lb test leader. We're anchoring kayaks, not aircraft carriers.

The "RULE" about using a length of anchor line which is 3x the water depth is BS when it comes to kayaks under most reasonable conditions. In rivers I use a drag chain, about 3ft of decently heavy chain, with about 15 feet of 3/16 line. Quite often I have just enough line out to keep the bottom part of the chain ticking along- that's enough to slow down. Even that sometimes get snagged. Would never want to use a grapnel anchor in moving water.

In lakes I use a folding grapnel anchor, with 50 feet of the same line. Usually, even in wind, very little line needs to be out to hold position. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I frequently anchor in 25-30 FOW, 50 feet of line has always been enough. If it is blowing hard enough to keep moving me, it is blowing hard enough to make the rest of the experience unpleasant, so I move on.

Anchor line must be sized so that it is easy to handle- in the context of kayaks, ANY line is strong enough, but when you get too small, it becomes a pain to deal with. A person could use an old reel with 12lb line on it as an anchor reel.... it would be kind of a pain though.

Anchoring in moving water causes a whole bunch of problems every year for people who don't think before they act. Lots of very experienced kayak anglers don't even bring an anchor in moving water.

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08-05-2017 05:53 AM
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RE: Anchor setup
(08-04-2017 06:28 PM)Clay Wrote:  I do have a concern with my dive reel. I asked the manufacturer and it looks like the line on my reel is only 50 pounds break strength. I'm concerned that I might actually loose the anchor if I can't get the zip tie to bust with my wimpy 50# break strength line. What do you guys think?

We used the smallest and cheapest zip ties you can get. Buy a bag of 'em. We've found the 'colored' ones are stronger than the plain white/clear. Oh...and we've found if you leave them slightly loose - they break easier too.

Start with the smallest ones. The less effort it takes you to tug on it and the faster/easier they break, the better.

You can always step up to bigger zip ties if they're breaking while trying to keep the anchor in place.
Good Luck!
08-05-2017 09:29 AM
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RE: Anchor setup
Some good points made Jszy, I set my anchor system up like Dizzy with a dive reel. I didn't like his quick release (not at the anchor itself, but at the boat and this system works better)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuPqqvZZXx8 Anchoring in moving water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-47vOJZe01c Dizzy anchoring system set of videos

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(08-05-2017 09:29 AM)Janster Wrote:  We used the smallest and cheapest zip ties you can get. Buy a bag of 'em. We've found the 'colored' ones are stronger than the plain white/clear. Oh...and we've found if you leave them slightly loose - they break easier too.

Start with the smallest ones. The less effort it takes you to tug on it and the faster/easier they break, the better.

You can always step up to bigger zip ties if they're breaking while trying to keep the anchor in place.
Good Luck!

That second video that I posted above shows them actually scoring the zip ties so that they break easier. I'll have to try smaller zip ties and break a few on dry land with the line that I have available. Better to make sure it works now than leaving an anchor and chain at the bottom. Good chain costs as much as the anchor.
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